
There are so many options available when looking at scopes. I have a cheap small blurry Meade kids scope (that I will later run over with my car), and I want to see the ring separation of saturn, moons of Jupiter, nebula and galaxies if I can. I have been looking at the telescopes below. But I cant not find many photos or videos on the these models only the larger more expensive models.
Meade 8″ Lightbridge $399.99
Celestron NexStar 4 SE $599.99
iOptrn smartstar G N114 GPS Goto $399.99
The lightbridge is the best looking and from what I can tell would grab the most light(right). But it doesn’t have goto or tracking and would probably not be good for astrophotography which is the main thing I would like to do with the new telescope.
The iOptron Gps and goto look really nice, but the telescope looks pretty weak.
The Celestron Seems to have the best features of both scopes, but costs $600. I do not mind the $600 as I will always use this item, but for that price I would expect 5,6,8 or even 10″ scope. I really confused about focal lengths and what makes what better than the other.
Also, what image capture device should I use? Webcam, security camera, b/w, color, or should I get a ccd made for only telescopes.
Best Answer: Hmmm -
I am unsure where to start here. It’s great that you are enthusiastic about the hobby of astronomy in general and astrophotography in particular. However:
1. I am really concerned by the fact that you are using the scope’s appearance as a criterion. That is a flashing neon sign that you really, really need to do some serious thinking and review before you actually buy anything.
2. If you do not know the night sky (and that appears to be the case based on your description of what you want to see), you should really start by learning it. If you do not really understand where things are located or how they move, you will have a tough time finding, centering, and tracking your targets. You may believe that you can let the computer do all those details, but you would be mistaken.
3. If you think the Celestron is getting a little on the high priced side, wait until you do astrophotography. You will spend thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours to get satisfactory results. I am not convinced that you are prepared – yet – for that investment.
4. (ADDED: The fact that you do not understand focal lengths tends to reinforce my opinion. The guys I know that are successful at astrophotography not only understand focal lengths. They eat them for breakfast. Seriously, to have any success at all in astrophotography you need a better understanding of telescope design and astronomy than you appear to have – at least for now. This probably sounds condescending – but this is how folks get frustrated and end up selling their equipment in a year or so).
Look, I understand your enthusiasm. You want it all now. But astronomy really is a hobby that requires patience – a LOT of patience. And that goes to another level in the area of astrophotography. You will not understand patience until you either have teenage kids or until you stay up all night struggling to keep the image centered when it’s 20 degrees out there. Those two are roughly equivalent.
There are some folks with lots of experience here, and they are generally all sending the same message. Start with something that you can use to actually see the objects. That means as much aperture as you can afford. Spend your money on optics instead of electronics. If you want a scope with a clock drive, then get one. You will pay a lot for it if you want comparable aperture. But I would not spend your money on GoTo features unless you are setting up amid light pollution (in which case, astrophotography is even more difficult). Learn the night sky. If you want to strap on a webcam or a prime focus camera and take a few fuzzy shots of really bright objects, fine. You can do that after you learn how to use the scope, but you had better dress warm. The hobby can be quite frustrating for a beginner. It would not be wise to multiply your frustration level by struggling with a CCD while you are struggling with “What the hell is that? It doesn’t look like that in the book.” If you have not attended a local star party, by all means do so. Look up your local astronomy club and take the opportunity to see what you can expect. It will be different than you think, I think. Best of Luck and Clear Skies to you. And patience.
- Of the three you mention, none are really suitable for astrophotography because of their altazimuth mounts. However, a quality equatorial mount will cost more than any of these telescopes, just the mount, no telescope! The 8″ Lightbridge is the best of the bunch, but you can save money and hassles by getting the smae optics in a solid tube, rather than the Lightbridge’s truss tube.
Here are a few web pages with good information on beginner’s telescopes:
http://www.gaherty.ca/tme/TME0702_Buying…
http://www.scopereviews.com/begin.html
http://observers.org/beginner/j.r.f.begi…
For more advanced information, read Phil Harrington’s Star Ware, 4th edition (Wiley).
You’ll get the greatest value for your money with a Newtonian reflector on a Dobsonian mount, such as these:
http://www.telescope.com/control/categor…
http://www.skywatchertelescope.net/swtin…
Buy from a store which specializes in telescopes and astronomy, either locally or online; don’t buy from department stores, discount stores or eBay as mostly what they sell is junk. Find your local astronomy club and try out different telescopes at one of their star parties:
http://www.skyandtelescope.com/community…
I strongly recommend that beginners steer clear of astrophotography until they have learned their way around the sky. Astrophotography is by far the most expensive and difficult area of amateur astronomy.
- I agree that generally astrophotography isn’t for beginners, but you sound pretty determined.
I’ve owned a bunch of scopes, and I have been without a telescope for some time now, so, getting back into the hobby I decided to go with the Meade ETX125. Lightweight, portable, reasonably large diameter objective, goto, and the Meade LPI , lunar planetary imager to get me started in imaging. (It’s not called astrophotography any more….that’s soooooo twentieth century)
It gonna set me back about $1,000 total.
Join the ‘CloudyNights’ forum, btw, you’ll learn a lotsa stuff.
- one part of your question we can dispose of right away: forget astrophotography. it is not for beginners, and you do not want to go there. the fact that you have to ask says it’s not for you.
with that out of the way, all other things being equal, spend your money on optics, i.e. aperture, i.e. the meade lightbridge. get a bigger one if you can afford it. this assumes you can handle and transport a fairly large piece of equipment. don’t worry about tracking: a well-balanced dob moves with a very light touch and stays where you point it. my 18″ dob moves with one finger. it’s nice.